Realism

[bozzer]

What a great post Dowlo.

That’s exactly where I see us at the moment, for me if we stay in this division this season it will be a result, although I expect us to be mid table. If we get a season where these young players have developed along with some quality like Snedker, Williams then we will be all the better for it next season.
If you want to replace Peaks who are we going to attract, you aren’t going to get a top step 3 manager as they will currently be enjoying a better budget, so are you going to go for an unproven professional coach, or someone who has been out of the game for a long time, or maybe take a chance on a step 4 manager. My opinion is that Peaks deserves this season, he’s earnt that in my book.
Do I want us to be beaten 5-2 at Coalville, of course not but look at how our last three results have been there!, and I felt we were in it until it went 3-1 then the heads went and all the players will learn from that. I just want the team to give 100%, I saw them do that yesterday and quality wise they were not as good as Coalville, simple as that.

We’ve had some unprecedented success in the past, just look at how long it has taken Scarborough and Northwhich to get to the same level, IMO we are going to have to have some years of rebuilding and that’s fine by me.

Of course another option is if supporters aren’t prepared to wait then we could abandon the fan owned model and search for a sugar daddy to buy some success. Not my preference.

Banging my head on the wall! This isn’t a mid table side so stop saying we should be happy .

If the fan base drops even more then there’s no recovery . And we won’t be getting 800 fans again in step 4 if we go down , cannot believe some say that’s a good thing and that’s our standard as a club !!!

I’ve started taking my boy this season if it carry’s on like this he won’t want to come. How many the same? NOW THATS THE REALISM turnstile money .

So stop being patronising and saying we should be happy and to feel guilty if we’ve made a negative opinion

You are absolutely entitled to your opinion, I’m not patronising you, just saying it as I see it.

In my opinion we’ve reached as far as we can go at the moment and we need to consolidate and that means we are going to lose a some games, if I see players develop then over the next couple of seasons we will have a great team capable of who knows what. If that means we are going to lose fans this season then with that calculation fans will be attracted when the team is challenging at the right end.

[discodunk]

you could have the best board,best ground,best volunteers ,but the only way to get people through the door at this level is to be at the top end of the table,winning games and playing good football,i was only saying the other day i think we as a fan based club have taken it as far as we could,its time to look for ,shall we say, a sugar daddy ,i feel we didnt look hard enough for players during preseason,then had to chuck the youngsters under the bus,although to be fair theyve done ok...but they needed bringing on,,,,they arent physically there yet.i also think andy has got us to a point where he cant take us on any further,i think hes been treading water for a while.......is it just me,,,,but over a few years now,especialy early in the season,we had a good turnout, where the team could shine,weve lost or played rubbish and ive gone home embarrased ,,,,,haa well see you up hayden road soon

[BartonRaz]

Some interesting comments over the past few days on here and on social media, perhaps expected after another defeat and disappointing performance but again, we were heavily odds against going in to the game so the result isn't really a surprise. The manner of it is what hurts.

Lots of very valid points in this thread about realism, many of which are in Dowlo's post and I agree with. We can't be expecting to be in and around the top end of the league this season and we've been dealt an awful hand from a fixtures point of view. I said when they were released that 6 points from our first 6 games would be a decent return and I stand by that. That's still very much achievable.

The manner of the defeats and the way we have played (even when we won) is the biggest concern. I think the next 3 games, against teams that have had similarly poor starts to the season, are now massive because too many of the natives are becoming restless. Realism works both ways. Social media posts and posts on this forum promoting encouragement and positivity will change the opinions of a few, but not the masses. People will accept negative results in games we're not expected to win but they won't tolerate consistently poor performances and that'll be reflected in attendances and ultimately the club's finances.

The players, staff and fans have all got to raise their game over the next few weeks to give us any chance and if we're still in this situation then, then we've got a real problem.

[sussexdiamond]

If you think we have restless fans just look at Nuneaton Forum. They are really fed up with owner/manager Ginnelly and his team of pensioners and crocks.

[AFCRD_Dan]

What’s happened to Jack, has he signed elsewhere? A shame if he has. One of the players we miss in my opinion.

[diamondsteve]

What’s happened to Jack, has he signed elsewhere? A shame if he has. One of the players we miss in my opinion.

Ashton? Think he went wboro not sure why though

[diamondsteve]

Banging my head on the wall! This isn’t a mid table side so stop saying we should be happy .

Hate to say it but this side at the moment looks exactly like a mid table side.
I don’t think we should be happy long term with that but no point thinking we’re going to seriously challenge this year based on performances so far.
Enjoy the football, we’ll win some, we’ll lose some but it’ll be good fun and that’s why I go to football.
Always need to remember this is a semi pro club and players have more important things to worry about…

My point was this seems worse than a mid table side . Looks worse defensive especially than many seasons before. This month of fixtures will explain more . Then hopefully we are a mid table side.

What’s frightening is the fact Peaks said in Pre season that he thinks we will be fighting for the playoffs loooooool

[judster62]

My feeling in these early games is that the teams we are playing simply have better players than us at the moment, bar the Bromsgrove game maybe. We simply can't afford the quality of player our opponents so far have and that means we're under pressure when these sides play well.

Certainly the standard of attacking players has been outstanding and feels to me better than in previous years. Couple that with a defence that is not quite as good as in previous years with full-backs who are still developing in place of rock solid experience. Midfield has potential but is also based on young players developing and gelling and they have suffered against higher quality opposition midfield playing well.

It's never easy when you get on a losing run early in a season but I do think if we give the players we have time to develop we should see results improve as the season progresses.

I really want to see a winning team like everyone else but the reality is a lot of the teams we play are going to have better players than us. Peaksy has a good track record of developing young players and I've seen enough to think he will develop this side into a really good one but it may take time.

[SouthRushdenJFC]

I would be very wary about going down the single owner route.

Look down the A45 at Northampton Town. They are still reeling from the dodgy loan to the previous owners and the current owners seem determined to split the assets to benefit themselves.

With the fan owned model you, at least, have control over that.

I do agree that often the way you play is more important than how many you win. There's nothing worse than expecting to get beat, which we all do at some stage, knowing it's going to be a terrible performance.

[Trek]

I would be very wary about going down the single owner route.

Exactly SRJFC, totally agree with you.

It sounds like some posters on this forum have either totally forgotten or weren’t around when RDFC experienced the problems endured over the last few years of it’s existence being under the control of characters like Keith Cousins or Steve Beasant and have overlooked the mess that a former RDFC director, Lee Power, has recently inflicted on Swindon Town.

A fan owned club may have have it’s limitations in attracting significant finance to complete at a higher level but this is something that the majority of us understand.